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Poster: Dan L. Date: Apr 23, 2009 3:55pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: OL episodes are on Hulu

It is true that the quality of the OL boxsets is suspect. I have some on LaserDisc - the DVD picture isn't really any better (as it should be).

Also they could have added some extras etc.... The release seemed like an afterthought that was done quickly and on-the-cheap to cash in.

A true fan would have surely paid more for a well done set but I think they had the VHS and LaserDisc masters and packaging/graphics and just ported it over to DVD as fast as they could, knowing that anyone interested in the series would buy it anyway.

A shame because the material deserves a lot better. If they reissued it tomorrow and gave it better treatment, extras, etc... like most box set releases, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Some of those episodes are true classics of the genre.

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Poster: cosmicola Date: Apr 23, 2009 4:38pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: OL episodes are on Hulu

I consider myself to be a "true fan" of OL, since the show premiered on ABC prime time, and I helped David Schow going back as far as 1976 or so, when he started collecting material for his Outer Limits Companion book. I guess I'm one of those peeps who likes watching just the shows themselves and doesn't care about DVD extras, trivia, or commentaries. And I'm not saying anyone is wrong here, but I've never had any trouble with my OL DVDs despite heavy viewing, other than occasional awkwardness trying to find which side of the double-sided disc contains the episode I wish to view. The DVDs look superb to me, but then, I don't have a huge HD screen...just a good old 25-inch 4:3 tube TV.

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Poster: Dan L. Date: Apr 23, 2009 5:52pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: OL episodes are on Hulu

Don't get me wrong...

I agree that the episodes are fine (and classic) by themselves, but it's nice to include original promos, commercials etc...like what's been uploaded here. The Twilight Zone LaserDisc boxsets had all kinds of neat stuff like an interview Rod Serling did with film students etc... It all adds context - it's also nice to see these original ABC promos and commercials - it recreates the original viewing experience of the time. I was too young to see these 'live'

And I've never had trouble with the DVDs not playing, but I recall when I bought them that others were posting in other websites that they were having trouble with the double sided DVDs. Some were cracked near the center and some were poorly 'glued' together.

And the picture quality is not great, even given the era. It is very pixellated because they so compressed onto such a small number of discs.

I know great DVD enthusiast sites like DVDBeaver are able to show bitrate data etc...and they do screenshots of DVDs to show what they mean and they compare different versions of classic movies on DVD - I'd love to be able to do that kinda stuff, but I don;t have all the software.

All I'm saying is, it's a shame because it could have been better a little better.

I have purchased as many of the episodes that were available on LaserDisc, some on VHS tape and all the DVD episodes, as well as the companion book to the series, and the CD of the original TV soundtrack (love the music and sound effects) and I love this series overall. I think as many fans as it has, it is still not fully appreciated.

Fans often want more than they need. Purists often don't need more... It's the flipside of the same coin I think.

Having the episodes on Hulu will hopefully bring these to more people - I probably can't get them via Hulu since I live in Canada and we're blocked from a lot of content because of distribution chains, rights holder issues etc.. So thank god for the DVDs (warts and all...)

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Poster: cosmicola Date: Apr 23, 2009 6:33pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: OL episodes are on Hulu

In 1963-64, I have to admit I was scared to death of OL, especially the monsters. But I couldn't resist watching. It provided a dark kind of balance to the lighter, family or "kiddie" shows on the tube. Funny...as I've gotten older, I much prefer the 2nd season of OL, especially the monster-free stories. In fact, I picked up an extra copy of the most recent 2nd season release DVD set, just to have it handy in my home office. Maybe I'm tired of the 1st season gothic mood and rubber monsters? Who knows.

It was nice seeing those little trailers here on IA, but I must confess that I never listen to commentaries and only rarely watch interviews or behind-the-scenes material on DVD sets. If anything, deleted scenes or unaired versions of pilots are of most interest to me, but that's about it. I despise commentaries or conversations with "experts" or "historians" because if anyone, I want to hear only from the people who actually *made* the movies or shows. I do know that a lot of people live for DVD extras, though.

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Poster: Dan L. Date: Apr 23, 2009 7:12pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: OL episodes are on Hulu

Yeah that's VERY true - some 'experts' are just people who like to hear themselves talk...some are excellent. It's very hit-or-miss. For the most part, I'd rather get it straight from the horse's mouth. It's usually more interesting that way.